are in fact the Villians. They are the lightest wheels you can get for the Z. My front 17x8's weigh a 'hefty' 16 lbs. and my rear 17 x 9'x weigh a "chunky" 17 lbs. If you are concerned about weight, this is the way to go. I could not believe it. I actually sold my previous set because I was looking for something lighter. After my friend put them on a scale I had to lick my wounds and get me another set of Villians....good price too, not too many left as they have been discontinued. Try around $ 1,300 for complete set with Nitto 555's or any other tire of your choice :)